Matters of Consequence

A short children's storybook can sometimes be more than the biggest so-called self-help books

The Little Prince is a very small book, and a great one.

It’s a children’s book meant for grown-ups, especially those who don’t remember that they were once little. This is a book about two things – matters of consequence, and taming – which are actually the same thing.

Matters of Consequence

Consequence means, or is taken to mean, ‘importance’.

It’s easy to get lost in matters of consequence. And it’s not wrong either because if nothing was of consequence then you would have no reason to ever care about anything. An easy path to nihilism.

In some ways, this is what it usually means to be a ‘grown-up’ – that you now focus on matters of consequence – work, money, status, power and the rest of it. The implication is that you’re supposed to care about something because it’s a matter of consequence.

It’s obvious that you’ll run into the old Socratic problem – are things good because the gods declare they ought to be done, or do the gods declare you ought to do them because they’re good? So do you care about things because they’re matters of consequence, or are they matters of consequence because you care about them?

In other words, are there objective things that are ‘important’ or ‘good’, or is it subjective? If it’s the former, if you care because you’ve been told they’re matters of consequence, if you believe things are good because some authority’s declared them to be, you let others choose for you – you outsource your thinking to someone.

Put like that, this sounds like a pretty stupid thing to do, and I wouldn’t recommend it, but you could make a case for it. If you have a low opinion of yourself – so you think you can’t figure out what’s of consequence – it could make sense to let someone decide for you. Or if you’ve got a really high opinion of someone else.

On the other hand, if I claim that matters of consequence are whatever I care about, it means I have to decide what I want to care about, and I can’t blame anyone else for those decisions.

What is Special

Imagine yourself as a Little Prince from another planet deeply in love with a small rose, the only one of its kind on his planet.

What if you now come across a field with ten thousand such roses, all identical to yours? You’d probably start to wonder – just what is so special about your flower?

I could find a million of them, just as pretty or maybe even more so. Your flower is worthless, a commodity no different from others of the same type, easily replaceable. It’s the same for anything you choose – a flower, a pet cat, a car, and perhaps even people.

Maybe it’s similar to a parent dropping their kid to school – they see how their kid is just one among so many, all of whose parents probably feel the same way about their kid as they do.

There are two possibilities, mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive. The first – you accept that your flower is no different from the rest. The second – you tell yourself that it’s different.

If you go by the first, again you come across two options.

‘No’ thing Special

You could tell yourself that your flower is no different from the rest, and therefore just as worthless as the rest of them. This is the case for arguing that ‘nothing matters’, to remain indifferent.

Your rose is just one commodity in an assembly line, one among many – if anything happens to it, you can get a replacement the same day. The sun is just a star, no different from the billions of others in the universe.

You could even try extending the same reasoning to humans. It’s nice to argue otherwise, that all of us are unique and irreplaceable, but do things really work that way? If you drop dead today, your employer would send out an application for your replacement tomorrow, perhaps your spouse might take longer to find a replacement, and if you’re really lucky, then maybe someone would occasionally recall you existed after a couple of years.

(Perhaps a reminder – no one is indispensable, and the world will always go on the way it has. Both a lesson for individual humility and a reminder that the world is resilient enough to withstand any loss)

It’s easy to feel this way, probably more so in a world of astronomical numbers with billions of nearly every sort of thing – humans, animals, plants, planets. The sheer scale kills individuality; to understand anything you can’t go into specific instances, or individuals. You have to resort to generalizations – large scale commonalities, or commodification (a commodity being identical to other products of that type).

You can’t really ‘stand out’ because the individual is submerged in an ocean, with maybe a couple of exceptions.

‘Every’ thing Special

The other option here is you tell yourself that your flower is no different from the rest, and therefore just as precious as the rest of them.

This is the case for arguing that ‘everything matters’, to remain engaged with everything equally, not even differentiating between ‘your’ rose and ‘other’ roses. You’d then love not just ‘your’ rose, but every rose. Not just your dog, but every dog.

In fact, the distinction between ‘your’ and ‘other’ would itself fade. Interestingly enough, I think this is similar to the idea of ‘enlightenment’, or more precisely, freedom from entanglement, freedom from karma, in a book Karma by Sadhguru.

Though my knowledge of this is tenuous at best, I like to think this is what Advaita Vedanta or ‘non-dualism’ is about. The distinction between ‘Atman’, the individual consciousness (here – ‘your’ rose) , and ‘Brahman’, the universal consciousness (here – the universe’s roses) is extinguished, and hence there is no duality, everything is one – yet you don’t withdraw into indifference while accepting that.

‘One’ Thing Special

Both the above were paths you take when you believe that your rose is no different from the other roses – either equally worthless, or equally precious.

This is the left side of the figure.

But the alternative is that you might believe your rose is different from every other rose, as the Little Prince did. This is the right side of the figure.

And then you probably think it means more than every other rose – if you thought it different but worse, you’d abandon it for any other.

Which leads back to the same question. Just what is so special about your flower?

I could find a million of them, just as pretty or maybe even more so. Your flower is worthless, a commodity no different from others of the same type, easily replaceable.

Objectively, from the point of view of an unbiased observer, this is absolutely right. But this isn’t Newtonian physics, where the (inertial) frame of reference (who observes) shouldn’t affect fundamental properties (what is observed).

One Little Flower

This is a story about a Little Prince and a flower.

If you love one little flower, and if that little flower lives on one tiny planet among all the billions of planets in the Universe, then you might find that you can’t help but love all the planets because on one tiny planet among them somewhere, your little flower is there.

And every time you look up and see the stars, you’ll remember that somewhere there, on one of them, is your flower. And because of that, all the stars look beautiful to you, and just looking at them is enough to make you happy.

Which means that if you have just one thing – whatever it is, a pursuit or a thing or a person – that means a lot to you then maybe that is more than enough. Everything, perhaps life itself or the entire world becomes beautiful to you and worth it because somewhere there is your flower.

And anywhere you go and any time things go downhill, wherever you look you’ll see a world in some corner of which your flower is.

A single blossom of a single tiny flower then is enough to light up a universe.

Taming

When you tame a flower, it’s no longer just a flower, but your flower.

All the flowers in the world put together would not match up to it – because they’re just random flowers to you. Yours is different because you’ve tamed it – which means you’ve ‘established ties’.

Taming requires effort, it is investment.

More than talking about how much it means to you, taming is about what you’ve done for it, the time and energy you’ve ‘wasted’ (or given up, if you don’t like that word) for it.

There are two things about taming, though.

One is that it’s a relation between two parties; to anyone else, your flower is just a flower, because he’s not tamed it. So don’t expect others to care, or even appreciate what a hobby, a pet, a person or a possession means to you – they can’t.

At most, if they’re empathetic, they can understand how it might feel, especially if they have a similar connection to something else they’ve tamed, but they won’t be able to know what that means to you. A dog lover might appreciate how and why another dog lover loves his pet dog, but I don’t think he could fathom the relationship for that particular dog because he’s not tamed it – it’s still just a dog to him, and even though he probably loves dogs, it’s not his dog.

Two Way

The more important thing about taming though, is that it works both ways – it’s a two way relationship. Every thing that you tame tames you.

If you’ve tamed your cat, it might love you, recognize you, and treat you differently from every other human it encounters. Just as you would treat it differently from every other cat you see.

Every thing that tames you gives you some value, and that gives you happiness – else it couldn’t have tamed you, and you probably wouldn’t have let it tame you. Unless you’ve made a mistake.

But every thing that tames you takes away something as well. I’m not sure what exactly it takes away, but I think you can call them freedom and indifference – the two most fundamental things about taming.

Freedom – because taming is neither fair-weather friendship nor mere acquaintanceship.

It’s not fair weather friendship where you make time or remember your flower when you need it or when it suits you – that’s just convenience.

It’s not acquaintanceship where you check up on your flower as a social nicety, to make it feel good – that’s just co-existence, things or people you know but don’t care about.

Taming is investment: time, energy, thought, emotion – life.

Your flower is never too far from your mind, for the sake of your flower you do things that others wouldn’t do for your flower and that you wouldn’t do for any other flower. So it’s more than acquaintanceship.

Even when times aren’t great you still look after your flower, even if it seems to make your life harder – it’s not about convenience.

So taming means that you give up a lot – just like when you invest, you ‘give up’ money to buy shares, and in return you get something you value more than the money. But markets go through bad times too, and perhaps there are periods when taming might hurt you more than it helps you. Neither do all investors make profits – a lot of people might tame something only to end up regretting it.

And perhaps even more than freedom, taming means a farewell to indifference.

Of the trillions of things in the world, nearly all are those whose existence of which you will be unaware when you check out of the universe. Of the handful of which you’ll know about, nearly all will be those which you won’t care too much about.

And of the tiny few that remain, there will be some that tame you. For better or worse, you can no longer be indifferent to them now.

When you give up indifference, you expose yourself to good and bad. If you tame your pet and your pet tames you, you might have a lot of good times together, but you also open yourself to sorrows – the usual ‘market’ risk when you invest heavily in anything.

If the flower you’ve tamed withers away, all the stars will for you be darkened.

The same flower which by its mere existence can light up a universe can by its demise also darken it.

Is Taming Worth It?

A digression, but what options do you have in the face of such market risk, if taming something can bring you more sorrow than joy?

The first – simply don’t invest in anything. Put everything in a fixed deposit. You can never lose money if you never risk it, though of course you gain nothing beyond the safest returns either. Make no deep friendships, no obsessive interests – and you’ll never face the pain of separation.

The other option – diversify heavily. Invest small amounts in many things – be interested in everything and committed to nothing. Diversification reduces risk; even if some eggs in your basket are destroyed, you’re unlikely to get wiped out.

If that was all, everyone would diversify, but you can’t have the good without the bad. Diversification reduces extreme losses but it does the same to gains; one of your stocks might double (a 100% rise) overnight, but if it’s just 10% of your portfolio, your overall gain is 10%, not 100% – 10 times less.

So if you have a hundred friends, you’re unlikely to mind much if you lose a couple of them, but can you really be close to all of them?

The last is when you tame a few things; when you invest heavily in them. They’ll give you a lot, but they’ll take a lot as well.

Which is perhaps as it should be; you can’t have peaks without troughs.

You might risk getting wiped out completely if the market tanks, if you’ve invested your entire sense of worth in something or someone and you lose it.

Though I don’t think there’s anything in the world that’s worth putting your entire self at stake for. Life always goes on, and the world never ends – the world doesn’t even notice. Any setback – maybe a failure in an examination or getting fired from work – today it looks gigantic, overwhelming.

Separate yourself with time – look ahead a few months, a year, five years – you’re not even going to remember it, and you’ll wonder why you made such a big fuss about it. When you do this with past events you’ve already gone through you get a feel of it; now it’s easier to extrapolate it to whatever you’re currently going through.

A disclaimer though – perhaps there are things worth staking yourself for, and I’ve just never found any. Something worth thinking about anyway.

There’s another option too here – to have your cake and eat it too, to have peaks without troughs. To take all the positives from your tamed flower and to reject the negatives. It would be like loving your dog deeply but moving on unfazed after his demise rather than mourning.

You might ask to what extent this is possible, or if it’s just ideal theory, good to preach but nothing more. If it’s that easy to move on you might wonder if you ever really cared much – maybe you were just indifferent.

And even if it’s possible, is it desirable? Taking only the good might not actually be ‘good’, would you miss out if you only visited peaks? Might there not be good in the ‘bad’, something to gain even from valleys and troughs?

Being Tamed

It’s very easy to get lost in matters of consequence that are inconsequential to you personally.

The Little Prince visits six planets before Earth, meeting a lonely king who loves giving orders for the sake of it, a man raising his hat in a mock bow to imaginary applause, a drunkard constantly drinking and immediately regretting it, a businessman counting and claiming the stars, a lamplighter switching on and off a lamplight without a break, and a geographer sitting at his desk with a mound of paper.

You can be tamed by authority and status. A king who sees people only as ‘subjects’, who tries to maintain a fig leaf of ‘control’ and superiority, even if it’s a charade you play to convince yourself.

It can happen even to good people, like a king who never gives an order that can’t be obeyed. In fact, perhaps it’s the most reasonable people who can go to extraordinary lengths to save face and live up a charade – someone unreasonable wouldn’t be able to accommodate others so long.

Status – which is others’ opinion of you – can tame you easily, when you do things only for their validation and admiration. Your audience tames you because you have to constantly put up a show since their applause is what you crave, like a conceited man, who, desperate to be admired, bows to an imaginary audience. You ‘put on a show’ because you behave differently in front of them and alone – one is a performance where you can’t let the mask slip, being someone you have to consciously pretend to be.

It’s even easier to be tamed by instant gratification, like a tippler drowning his sorrows in drink and immediately regretting it. That’s an inability to delay gratification, to let immediate consequences rule over long-term ones. To knowingly write off the future for the present – not because you want to, but because you can’t withhold from it.

Possessions tame when you’re owned by the things you own. Taming something should add to the value of that and to you, not like a businessman counting the stars. The stars themselves offer him no benefit, neither directly or indirectly – at least an asset like a car or phone gives you value.

This isn’t an attack on wealth – wealth offers you plenty of benefits like financial freedom, insurance against illness and calamity. It’s about possessions without any value to you – meaning you wouldn’t notice their loss; if they were gone you would be as you were before.

Nor is the businessman of any use to the stars either. They aren’t improved by their relationship with him, while a pet might be by its relation to its tamer.

Perhaps the most dangerous is to be tamed by duty. That’s because it dresses up as virtue and self-righteousness; the rest appear to be value-neutral, if not actual vices. No wonder the Little Prince admired it for its selflessness.

Obsession with duty above all else. Adherence to the process becomes an end to itself. Going through meaningless processes as a formality, despite the fact they were designed in and for a completely different context. Forgetting that men are not made for rules, rules are made for men.

It’s like a lamplighter whose job it was to switch on a lamp at sunset, and switch it off at sunrise, twice a day. But when his planet began spinning faster and completing a rotation every minute, he was doing this over a thousand times daily – because that’s what his job description asked him to, even if it had zero utility for anyone, and was in fact detrimental to him.

Another is being tamed by self-importance, by an unwillingness to get one’s hands dirty, a disdain for real work, considering it beneath one’s station. Like a geographer who won’t move his ass and expects every detail about the terrain to be brought to him by an army of explorers.

Are any of these ‘wrong’ though? Not objectively at least, because if freedom means anything, then it means the freedom to choose what to care about, and nothing’s more annoying or unbearable than a supercilious ‘wise man’ telling you what you should care about.

But at an individual level, if what you tame makes your life worse than what it is without it, then it’s probably the wrong thing for you.

A Flower

More than anything else, The Little Prince is about this. That anything can be a matter of consequence if you want it to be.

“If some one loves a flower, of which just one single blossom grows in all the millions and millions of stars, it is enough to make him happy just to look at the stars. He can say to himself, ‘Somewhere, my flower is thereтАж’ But if the sheep eats the flower, in one moment all his stars will be darkenedтАж And you think that is not important!”

The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exup├йry

No matter how useless it is to the rest of the world.

“The flowers have been growing thorns for millions of years. For millions of years the sheep have been eating them just the same. And is it not a matter of consequence to try to understand why the flowers go to so much trouble to grow thorns which are never of any use to them? Is the warfare between the sheep and the flowers not important? Is this not of more consequence than a fat red-faced gentleman’s sums? And if I know– I, myself– one flower which is unique in the world, which grows nowhere but on my planet, but which one little sheep can destroy in a single bite some morning, without even noticing what he is doing — Oh! You think that is not important!”

The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exup├йry

Just as things that are of consequence to others might mean nothing to you.

Here, then, is a great mystery. For you who also love the little prince, and for me, nothing in the universe can be the same if somewhere, we do not know where, a sheep that we never saw has– yes or no?– eaten a roseтАж
Look up at the sky. Ask yourselves: is it yes or no? Has the sheep eaten the flower? And you will see how everything changesтАж And no grown-up will ever understand that this is a matter of so much importance!

The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exup├йry

I’d think (and somewhere, probably do think) that someone must be crazy to care so much about a sheep eating a rose, neither of which he has ever seen.

But maybe, if you care about that, and if you look up at the sky, it matters more than anything in the world.

If the sheep has eaten the rose, then all the stars will for you be darkened, and if it hasn’t, then every time you look at the stars you will remember that your flower is there on one of them.

Whatever you tame is a matter of consequence for you.

25 comments

Satya sai raj Koruprolu

LOve to read your posts.

Sparsh tyagi

You’ve just broken down love to the T. Taming sounds awful lot like love. Maybe someone has been tamed or is in the process :p (please dont mind my intrusion, just messing around :p)
Btw very insightful post. I just found a new perspective. Thanks!

Sum Earth

You are watching J.Krishnamurthi lectures aren’t you?

Destiny

The parallel drawn between the two books is beautiful. Your writings never fail to mesmerize the reader.

However, may I ask, what was your motivation/inspiration for this particular write up?
Usually, such ideas arise when one encounters any significant/thought provoking event of life.

Aur ek upsc query :p
Did u mention about your books in ur DAF? If yes, any particular follow up question in interview.

Few of my articles have been approached to be published in an anthology(it was a sudden opportunity, so i didn’t really decide, whether I should include or let it be)

Any insight would help.

pratyushpandey

if you don’t mind talking about it and have enough knowledge to handle questions you can include it

Destiny

Thankyou!

Sweta Tripathi

Every choice has its own consequence if I choose to follow the set norm like others I will not face any fear or self doubt but I will lose my self opinion what I exactly care for ?? And if I start digging inside I have to first indulge in a long fight with my old beliefs influenced by society , fears and self doubts before finally getting into my real shoes ….

Then the question of what I care further brings in the question what makes my choice different from others well nothing I guess at the end everything will be 0 or I can say just like others I am adding value to my life …
Nothing is wrong with the above but there is something which goes beyond these two thing that is balance , obviously still the world will not give the heck about you but by doing this one can achieve self freedom …
Taming so far is all about creating a balance with what you exactly care about via constant interaction with it not for a sake of low vibrational returns like fame, money etc but to achieve ultimate bliss through liberty and that can be achieved by controlling the whirlwind of emotions first, this doesn’t mean you will become a rock but you will now able to see what you exactly care about this process of taming will give a boost to your happiness but at the initial point you will face massive ups and downs in your happiness graph but at the end your graph will reach to its peak because of your long term investment ….
Now both you and your pursuit will complement eachother and create a balance in your life journey….

Sam

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Shobhit Raina

Hi Pratyush, I have a question I want to ask you. When you think about the things which basically form the titles of your articles on this website, do you think that thinking about them changes your life in a certain way, real life actions or mentally? Your articles are great but just asking generally that when you are thinking about these issues, eg drawing parallels between 2 books, do you just appreciate just the thinking process and does it end at that OR does that thinking carry forward to other areas of your life, specifically asking this to you as you already make great use of your time.

pratyushpandey

I can’t separate the thinking process from the doing process.
Usually it works both ways – you behave a certain way, reflect on it and then write about it.
And while writing you often think more about it and get a new insight which you act on or which you reaffirm when you act that way.

Of course it’s only applicable to certain topics, which is why I avoid writing about general issues and things beyond me, that I can’t do anything about or haven’t experienced myself.

pratyushpandey

It’s fine to write about whatever you want.
You’ll notice there was no prescription for anyone in that response, no use of any ‘should’.
It was just an answer about what I do, not what anyone should do, which is not my concern anyway.

Sanjana

Sadhguru also talks about and so does krishnamurti, osho, Sri m, Thanu padmanabhan and so many others about surrender. Where the mind doesn’t bother you with these million fold questions and you act because it’s the right thing to do. Like not procrastinating but being more present. You just act what’s the right in the moment. You don’t worry about consequences. You become more present.

Ronak jangid

Hello pratyush, i wanted to ask, are you an atheist, do you believe in God, … Please answer… Because i am really confused should i believe in god or not..
Actually in your recommended book ‘thus spake zarathustra , i read a line ” God is dead and we have killed it” and another that ” God and afterlife is just an imagination of weak old minds whose life has slept away from there hands so they wish to live in another world after death.
This idea makes me really pessimistic….and by believing in god we remain positive and we feel protected…but at the same time i want to face truth even if it is bitter instead of believing in something that does not exist …
And if there is no god then there is no one who will do justice to good or bad
People …then darwin law of nature “survival of the fittest” he who is adaptable in his environment , would survive…. That makes me wonder that in order to achieve something we have to be a bad person or good people suffers more because there is no god who will help him..
And also nietzsche lost his mind in the last years of his life … Could be it due to pessimism..

And buddha did not believed in god too… So that makes me wonder should i believe in god or not

I know we cant find proof of god , but by logic or rational mind we can make the better choice whether believe in god or not… Can you please help

Sweta Tripathi

Hi , I know you asked from Pratyush sir but the question you asked once popped in my head too after reading “Why I am an atheist” so after pondering about I understood that there is no exact answer to this , but if this feeling of god makes you feel positive and more inclined towards your goodness then you should believe in him no matter what other people believes ..
But if this is making you stuck fearful then leave it because here this is happening bcoz you are being told to love him but you never genuinely loved him you are following various rituals bcoz someone said this will make god happier ….
The point is why god is dead bcoz from ages people has used the name of god to cause trouble into people’s life plus is god a human that he will get angry if you don’t follow the rituals this is rubbish….

My suggestion is create your own definition of god , create things to match up with the vibrations of the god( your definition) , each one of us has got this power of creating things — God is a very subjective idea so it varies influence by events that happens in somebody’s life…
You have to decide what you wanna follow …

pratyushpandey

Why do you have to copy anyone? It doesn’t matter what i believe. It doesn’t matter what Nietzsche or Buddha believed.
If something helps you and it doesn’t harm anyone then what’s stopping you? Applies to belief and disbelief.

It’s very weak reasoning to think atheists are pessimistic and theists optimistic or that your belief or lack of it in a deity determines your outlook.

Maybe it’s also worth wondering whether this really matters and deserves so much mental space. If you solve this question will your life really change in any way?

Kirandeep

I would like to put forward my experience , there is no such thing as pessimism or optimism when one experience anything it just surprises you or excites you or bores you because of interplay of certain chemicals our body let’s us perceive ant experience as good or bad …..all these terms comes from perception of one or another individual……that we accept as our own and neglecting the prime experience just in belief that people who have been before us were smarter ……just like a seed of particular plant we are same but different conditions of environment results in some plants being stuned others tall …..we all know inside what we believe but keep searching for strength from others for our own experiences ………and about God…the very idea that God is something different from us separates God from our experience ……we all are one ….the universe was created from a source that decided to experience itself ( not desired) and from itself created everything forgetting the power of its own existence and seeking strength of its existence in every aspect …and what we call as nature is the nature of who decided to create everything ….and everything in this world is happening by its nature …..we often try to oppose the nature of existence or change it lest we know that the only thing that has to be realized is oneself …..this very concept is beautiful portrayed sometimes as a man in cage with keys in his own hands ….the only need is something to show him put in his mind the way to use that key ….hope that it might help ….if u get confused by above description and not find it true to your experience then try walking on the experiences you are gathering you will ultimately reach that void ……we as existence has no option other than to return to our true nature ….that keeps calling us ….we often are entangled by the realities our mind projects unto us at every stage of life …keep chanting the one you believe in whichever God since the characteristics of God will remind you of yourself …and all longings of you will settle and your doubts removed and only anahad remains the silence that is often brought up and talked about in religious scriptures

Anonymous

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pratyushpandey

I think this is a quote that’s deeper than it looks.
There’s a beautiful post I came across recently here that perhaps captures its essence.
I touched on it in this piece on matters of consequence as well – the bit about peaks and troughs.

Thanks for the idea, I’ll try to think about it and write something, though that link is probably much better than what I can come up with.

rajat

Hello pratyush lately i have been thinking a lot about taming and consequences , why should i choose to focus/love A and not B .

I have been confused a lot on this , what i want in my life . I am not looking for a one stop fix but yours POV on how to find what you want to tame in life.

THANK YOU.

pratyushpandey

I wrote before about it here.

Destiny

This one is from the link pratyush sir shared on Nietzsche!

“You have the choice: either as little displeasure as possible, painlessness in brief тАж or as much displeasure as possible as the price for the growth of an abundance of subtle pleasures and joys that have rarely been relished yet? If you decide for the former and desire to diminish and lower the level of human pain, you also have to diminish and lower the level of their capacity for joy.”

Damn, this part feels so real.
I always felt the thing that has capacity to give u intense joy also possess the capacity to render u depressed.
(Sorry for the raw language, incase it sounds like that)
It’s jst like two sides of the same coin. U can’t really evade one , if you want to have other. (I tried that hell lot of times, didn’t really work out)

At this point, I’m convinced every thought that one encounters has been said somewhere before (alternatively, it also reflects that I am not well read person at all :p)

Anyways, do u guys (anyone who reads this comment) also believe so?

Like not believing for sake of it, but have actually experienced stuffs that help u draw same/similar conclusions. (Hope so, what I say makes sense here)

Pratyush sir, please share your response too,if possible. Is there really a way out? ??

Or what Neitzsche said, just should be considered as a maxim on it’s face value.

Even Nietzsche eventually came to disagree with SchopenhauerтАЩs teachings. So can someone else to his teachings too. Just saying.

Destiny

I shouldn’t have used the word “depressed” that casually.
It carries sensitive connotation. My bad!

“With time, I can love the pain”.
I definitely realise that.

But still , there is a part that says
” Why is growth part always related with pain, when at the end u r doing what you love”

Is there someone out there who can actually pull it off. I think people do(might be wrong).

But often the pain & happiness we talk about is perception of mind.

Anyways, Thanks for ur insight Ajeeta ЁЯЩВ

Magmile

Hey Pratyush!
Could you let me know how you managed CSE prep along with acads at ‘A’? Being in same boat, I too am planning for CSE and am in third trimester at IIM. Your plan would give me some idea on how to balance CSE prep along with IIM rigour.

pratyushpandey

You’ll need to be more specific with your question, little I can say beyond using your time better and cutting out things that aren’t important to you. By now you’d also be used to the acads, it shouldn’t feel too rigorous.

Sam

Dear sir,
There is this Shlok in bhagwatgeeta,рдЕрд╕рдВрд╢рдпрдВ рдорд╣рд╛рдмрд╛рд╣реЛ рдордиреЛ рджреБрд░реНрдирд┐рдЧреНрд░рд╣рдВ рдЪрд▓рдореН | рдЕрднреНрдпрд╛рд╕реЗрди рддреБ рдХреМрдиреНрддреЗрдп рд╡реИрд░рд╛рдЧреНрдпреЗрдг рдЪ рдЧреГрд╣реНрдпреЗрддреЗ ||

I got its literal meaning, but I’m not getting what it want to convey, what things one should do to attain peace of mind. Will you help me with this?

I know one should focus on the goal and let other things(negativity,issues, taunts) pass by.( Like one should have these qualities- рдХрд╛рдХ рдЪреЗрд╖реНрдЯрд╛, рдмрдХреЛ рдзреНрдпрд╛рдирдВ, рд╕реНрд╡рд╛рди рдирд┐рджреНрд░рд╛ рддрдереИрд╡ рдЪ рд╕реНрд╡рд▓реНрдкрд╣рд╛рд░реА, рдЧреГрд╣рддреНрдпрд╛рдЧреА рд╡рд┐рджреНрдпрд╛рд░реНрдереА рдкрдВрдЪ рд▓рдХреНрд╖рдгрдВред)
I know what to do, but how can it be done with peace?